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Well folks, I have a IMac 21.5 mid 2010 . The OS I am running isEl Capitan10.11.6 Every Sunday I use the Disc care app to clean up and then run disc utility first aid.For backup I useTime machine 1.3. My wife and I use this comp. for I photo , safari, pages and numbers. My wife uses numbers for church donation reports and receipt. I use pages to copy some incoming photos from preview. I have an iPod for music. I use a cannon MG2920 for printing. We have 2 cannon power shots for cameras. I am useing a Mac wireless keyboard and mouse.The printer and time machine are both connected by wire. My Question is: should I upgrade to os 10.12.6? I ask because I have been told If I don't I will get too far behind and when new stuff comes out , I will have to get a new Mac? I almost forgot. My wife uses Gmail and goggle chrome63.0.329.132. For searching ,I use safari and Mail that comes with Mac system. With os 10.12.6. is numbers and pages the same or will I have to learn how to use it all over again and then teach my wife who yells I HATE CHANGE !! Then we have a heated exchange about why this is happening. Heh Heh.
 
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Thanks for all that detailed information. It looks like both your wife and you have useful tasks that you are using your iMac for. One question, though, is what is the "Disc care app"? I've never heard of that one.

I believe I can answer one of your questions. I suspect that Numbers and Pages should be "basically" the same. I do not use either of them, as I have Office 2016, and thus use Word 2016 and Excel 2016 (and Outlook 2016 for my EMails). But when I upgraded from Office 2011 to Office 2016, everything was seem less with all 3 programs. However, I have always made sure that the version of either Office 2011 or Office 2016 was/is current.

One other thing is that your version of Google Chrome is behind. I use Google Chrome as my primary browser, and I rarely, if ever, use Safari. The current version is V 64.0.3282.119. If you want to upgrade, it is simple: when you launch Google Chrome, move your mouse pointer where it says "Chrome" (upper left hand corner), click on it, and then select "About Google Chrome". It will take a minute or so for the update to be downloaded, and you will then be asked to relaunch the program.

As I mentioned, I use Outlook 2016 for my EMail needs. I have seen reports here of folks having difficulties with Apple's Mail program, and a number of those happen after an OS upgrade. However, I wonder if a lot of that has to do with improper planning with the upgrade.

In any event, Sierra, OS 10.12.6, is definitely a stable OS. To prepare for the upgrade, here are some things you need to do:

1. If your wife or you are using any third party (ie, non-Apple) applications (except browsers, like Google Chrome, although she should upgrade), you'll need to insure that they are compatible with Sierra. This link will help you with that:

https://roaringapps.com/apps

2. For the next two steps, you are already doing them (as long as the Disk care app" is "OK"): perform disk cleanup/maintenance/repairs, from a software perspective, and then do a final backup. For disk cleanup/maintenance/repairs, you actually can do a good amount of disk cleanup on your own, and there are also some excellent third party programs available (both free and commercial) that can help you with that.

3. The next step is how you want to upgrade to Sierra, OS 10.12.6. There are 2 choices: perform a clean, fresh, "virgin" installation of oS 10.12.6, or just upgrade from OS 10.11.6 to OS 10.12.6. There are Pros and Cons with either approach. Myself, I always do a fresh, clean installation of the new OS (or sometimes when an upgrade to the current OS is released). However, I do make backups differently that you (and quite a few other folks on this site). I use SuperDuper!, which make a bootable clone of my system. I have found that for either an OS "upgrade" or a recovery, using a SuperDuper! backup makes either of those processes smoother, along with me having more control. I actually started a thread about backups back in November, and you might want to have a look at it. Here is the link:

https://www.mac-help.com/threads/backups-backups-backups.223959/

As mentioned there, you can use either SuperDuper! or Carbon Copy Cloner in demo mode, and the full functionality of the bootable backups will be there.

Unfortunately, the "stickler" with a clean, fresh installation is that you would need the "Install macOS Sierra" file, which "should" be available from the App store. But Apple, in their "?wise?" wisdom, has chosen not to make that file "easily" available (I actually have it, and that's because after I first downloaded it (when Apple had not yet changed their "thinking"), I made a copy of it before proceeding with the installation).

So, come back with more questions, and I (and others) will be glad to help you. Also, some other folks hopefully will "chime in" about Mail, upgrade versus clean, fresh installation, experiences with newer versions of Pages, Numbers, and Safari, etc.
 
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Thanks for all that detailed information. It looks like both your wife and you have useful tasks that you are using your iMac for. One question, though, is what is the "Disc care app"? I've never heard of that one.

I believe I can answer one of your questions. I suspect that Numbers and Pages should be "basically" the same. I do not use either of them, as I have Office 2016, and thus use Word 2016 and Excel 2016 (and Outlook 2016 for my EMails). But when I upgraded from Office 2011 to Office 2016, everything was seem less with all 3 programs. However, I have always made sure that the version of either Office 2011 or Office 2016 was/is current.

One other thing is that your version of Google Chrome is behind. I use Google Chrome as my primary browser, and I rarely, if ever, use Safari. The current version is V 64.0.3282.119. If you want to upgrade, it is simple: when you launch Google Chrome, move your mouse pointer where it says "Chrome" (upper left hand corner), click on it, and then select "About Google Chrome". It will take a minute or so for the update to be downloaded, and you will then be asked to relaunch the program.

As I mentioned, I use Outlook 2016 for my EMail needs. I have seen reports here of folks having difficulties with Apple's Mail program, and a number of those happen after an OS upgrade. However, I wonder if a lot of that has to do with improper planning with the upgrade.

In any event, Sierra, OS 10.12.6, is definitely a stable OS. To prepare for the upgrade, here are some things you need to do:

1. If your wife or you are using any third party (ie, non-Apple) applications (except browsers, like Google Chrome, although she should upgrade), you'll need to insure that they are compatible with Sierra. This link will help you with that:

https://roaringapps.com/apps

2. For the next two steps, you are already doing them (as long as the Disk care app" is "OK"): perform disk cleanup/maintenance/repairs, from a software perspective, and then do a final backup. For disk cleanup/maintenance/repairs, you actually can do a good amount of disk cleanup on your own, and there are also some excellent third party programs available (both free and commercial) that can help you with that.

3. The next step is how you want to upgrade to Sierra, OS 10.12.6. There are 2 choices: perform a clean, fresh, "virgin" installation of oS 10.12.6, or just upgrade from OS 10.11.6 to OS 10.12.6. There are Pros and Cons with either approach. Myself, I always do a fresh, clean installation of the new OS (or sometimes when an upgrade to the current OS is released). However, I do make backups differently that you (and quite a few other folks on this site). I use SuperDuper!, which make a bootable clone of my system. I have found that for either an OS "upgrade" or a recovery, using a SuperDuper! backup makes either of those processes smoother, along with me having more control. I actually started a thread about backups back in November, and you might want to have a look at it. Here is the link:

https://www.mac-help.com/threads/backups-backups-backups.223959/

As mentioned there, you can use either SuperDuper! or Carbon Copy Cloner in demo mode, and the full functionality of the bootable backups will be there.

Unfortunately, the "stickler" with a clean, fresh installation is that you would need the "Install macOS Sierra" file, which "should" be available from the App store. But Apple, in their "?wise?" wisdom, has chosen not to make that file "easily" available (I actually have it, and that's because after I first downloaded it (when Apple had not yet changed their "thinking"), I made a copy of it before proceeding with the installation).

So, come back with more questions, and I (and others) will be glad to help you. Also, some other folks hopefully will "chime in" about Mail, upgrade versus clean, fresh installation, experiences with newer versions of Pages, Numbers, and Safari, etc.

Disc Care is an app I bought when I got this machine I've never had a problem with it. It is made for Apple byAbout time products It is fast smooth and I have never had a problem with it. I also have never had a problem with apple mail app On it I have northwestel.net who is the sever up here. I thought time machine backed up everything I have automatically So when I upgrade elCapitan I just leave it alone. I to would like to keep it KISS. You are so far ahead of what I do I can barely understand what you mean. Also I do not use I cloud. Should I ? And why?

Disc Care is an app I bought when I got this machine I've never had a problem with it. It is made for Apple byAbout time products It is fast smooth and I have never had a problem with it. I also have never had a problem with apple mail app On it I have northwestel.net who is the sever up here. I thought time machine backed up everything I have automatically So when I upgrade elCapitan I just leave it alone. I to would like to keep it KISS. You are so far ahead of what I do I can barely understand what you mean. Also I do not use I cloud. Should I ? And why?
 
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It looks like Disk Care is similar to the excellent, freeware application called Onyx:

https://www.titanium-software.fr/en/onyx.html

It has been around for a number of years, and it has had numerous excellent reviews. I have been using it for so long that I depend on it (along with the excellent commercial program Tech Tool Pro).

I don't use (nor will I ever use) the "cloud". First off, I refuse to allow my personal information to be there (including my financial info). Secondly I have 2 external devices (SSDs inside) that I use for backups for both of my Macs. That is easily sufficient and safe for my needs. Those devices are nice, slim Orico enclosures, and I can easily take them with us. Plus, as I mentioned, the backups are made with SuperDuper!, and I can boot either of my Macs from either backup. It's almost like having another machine!

I actually don't know how much system "stuff" Time Machine backs up, but a number of folks here have reported success using Time Machine. If you read that link about the thread I started about backups, you would have read that doing an upgrade/clean install of a Mac OS via the Recovery HD partition, and then recovering your needed "stuff" from a Time Machine backup, can be a slow process, as a good part of that depends upon the internet and availability of Apple servers. On the other hand, with a SuperDuper! or Carbon Copy Cloner backup, the process is all local, faster, and smoother. But as I stated, for such a clean installation of Sierra, you would need the "Install macOS Sierra" file on your backup. I actually don't know if you can get it.

And yes, the KISS philosophy! Way to go!!!!!
 
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